An Introduction to the Salafi Da'wah

[KI]

Progressive,
Your problem with the salafi is they are the one 100% on the right path and are not afraid of drawing peoples attention to what is lawful and unlawful in Islam or in other words what keeps one in Islam and what takes them outside of the fold of Islam. You do not have a problem with ALL other denominations of Islam such as shia, sufi, nation of Islam...ect because they have been manipulated and are distancing themselves from the path of Islam. Eat your heart out Kafir. You are a Liar and no one would believe a liar anyhow.

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Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Shall We tell you the greatest losers in respect of (their) deeds?
"Those whose efforts have been wasted in this life while they thought that they were acquiring good by their deeds!

Al Kahf (The cave) 103 &104.

[KI]

FYI,
Regarding adhan "Assalat Kharon mina Annawm", it was prophet (saw) who ordered Bilal (ra) to include it in his Adhan and not Umar as you have mentioned in the hadith of al muwata'a. Bilal (ra) did not perform the function of Mu'adhin after the demise of the holly prophet (saw) therefore Umar could not have unstructed him to include it in the Adhan.
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Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Shall We tell you the greatest losers in respect of (their) deeds?
"Those whose efforts have been wasted in this life while they thought that they were acquiring good by their deeds!

Al Kahf (The cave) 103 &104.

[FYI]

Originally posted by KI
FYI,
Regarding adhan "Assalat Kharon mina Annawm", it was prophet (saw) who ordered Bilal (ra) to include it in his Adhan and not Umar as you have mentioned in the hadith of al muwata'a. Bilal (ra) did not perform the function of Mu'adhin after the demise of the holly prophet (saw) therefore Umar could not have unstructed him to include it in the Adhan.

1-First of all where is yor evidance, an hadith?

2-Secondly in the hadith it does NOT say Bilal came to Umar, it just says a 'muadhdhin' came to Umar.

3-Third how do you explain this hadith from your own book:

"Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that the muadhdhin came to Umar ibn al-Khattab to call him to the subh prayer and found him sleeping, so he said, "Prayer is better than sleep," and Umar ordered him to put that in the adhan for subh."

Malik's Muwatta, Book 3, Number 3.1.8

[hac]

This one's more 'informative'.

[ahmed_tabib]

Originally Posted by FYI

1-First of all where is yor evidance, an hadith?

2-Secondly in the hadith it does NOT say Bilal came to Umar, it just says a 'muadhdhin' came to Umar.

3-Third how do you explain this hadith from your own book:

"Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that the muadhdhin came to Umar ibn al-Khattab to call him to the subh prayer and found him sleeping, so he said, "Prayer is better than sleep," and Umar ordered him to put that in the adhan for subh."

Malik's Muwatta, Book 3, Number 3.1.8

Allahu Akbar. I wouldn't have bothered to bring back this topic from the dead but since you have asked for proofs and the inability to provide proofs from the Salaf would imply that there is no proof, I bring forward the Ahadeeth:

It is narrated in a number of saheeh ahaadeeth that the words al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm (prayer is better than sleep) are to be said in the adhaan for Fajr. It is mentioned in some of them that this phrase is to be said in the first adhaan without stating what is meant by the phrase “the first adhaan” – is it the adhaan that is given before Fajr or is it the adhaan of Fajr itself?

These ahaadeeth include the following:

1 – It was narrated that Abu Mahdhoorah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I used to give the adhaan for the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and in the first adhaan of Fajr I used to say: “Hayya ‘ala al-falaah, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, Allaahu akbar Allaahu akbar, laa ilaaha ill-Allaah (come to prosperity, prayer is better than sleep, prayer is better than sleep, Allaah is Most Great, Allaah is Most Great, there is no god but Allaah).”

Narrated by Abu Dawood, 500; al-Nasaa’i, 647; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

2 – It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: In the first adhaan after the word al-falaah it is said: Al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm, al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm (prayer is better than sleep, prayer is better than sleep).

It was narrated by al-Tahhaawi (1/82) with a hasan isnaad as al-Haafiz said in al-Talkhees (3/169).

Al-Thamr al-Mustataab, p. 131.

3 - It was narrated that Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: It is Sunnah for the muezzin, after saying Hayya ‘ala al-falaah (come to prosperity), to say: “al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm (prayer is better than sleep)” twice.

This was narrated by al-Daaraqutni (90), Ibn Khuzaymah in his Saheeh and al-Bayhaqi in his Sunan (1/423), and he said: its isnaad is saheeh.

It was also narrated by al-Daraaqutni and al-Tahhaawi (1/82) via Hushaym from Ibn ‘Awn with the wording: In the adhaan for Fajr prayer, when the muezzin said: Hayya ‘ala al-falaah (come to prosperity), he said: “al-salaatu khayrun min al-nawm (prayer is better than sleep),” twice. This version was narrated by Ibn al-Sakan who classed it as saheeh, as it says in al-Talkhees, 3/148

Al-Thamr al-Mustataab, p. 132

These ahaadeeth show that this phrase appears in the adhaan for Fajr prayer, and this was the way of the Salaf.

Allahul Musta'an.

[Spinoza]

I see one great merit in the Salafis. They began from the right point. But what is poor in them is that they just ended up right after the beginning.

It is interesting to see that Sunnis and Shias are very angry with them. But when I ask any angry Sunni he simply says that Salafis are against intercession of Muhammad and walis, they are against Milads that we do when we inaugurate a new building, or a new car or a new business etc.

I don’t need to say anything about the anger of the Shias. I saw what they did at the shrine of Askari on TV news. I understand why the Shias are more antagonistic to the Salafis than their Sunni counterparts.

[ahmed_tabib]

Originally Posted by Spinoza

It is interesting to see that Sunnis and Shias are very angry with them. But when I ask any angry Sunni he simply says that Salafis are against intercession of Muhammad and walis, they are against Milads that we do when we inaugurate a new building, or a new car or a new business etc.

I don’t need to say anything about the anger of the Shias. I saw what they did at the shrine of Askari on TV news. I understand why the Shias are more antagonistic to the Salafis than their Sunni counterparts.

The Shias have the right to be angry on the Salafees, because the 'aqeedah, the opinions of the salafees is totally contrary to the Shias. The Scholars have made takfeer on their Ayatollah Khomeini because of his major shirk in his works, and there is no doubt that those who curse and slander the Companions and accuse them of apostasy, those who accuse the Mother of the Believers of Prostitution (astagfirullah) have no place in Islaam. Though not all Shias are the same though.

As for the Sunnis, the group that are angry on the Salafees are the Sufis. Both Sufis and Salafees claim to be Sunnis (or belong to Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama'ah), but because Salafees heavily oppose the practises and beliefs of contemporary Sufis, the Sufis in turn are also angry on them.
And when there is a dispute amongst the Muslims, then let them go back to Quraan and Sunnah to settle their dispute.