Pakistanis: are they enemies or Muslim brothers?

[Wais_Islam]

Brother Oshikkitoe, the educated! Salaam.

All Muslims are our brothers but not all of them have hurt the Bangladeshis. If one doesn't feel that pain up until today, then he is denying himself his own history. And if the one who is supposed to be our fellow Muslim brothers fail to acknowledge the existence of such pain then shouldn't THEY be doing the ISLAMIC thing to hold together the brotherliness of the Muslims and apologise or sooth that pain. It is not worth talking to people who do not feel pain and hatred from our other Muslims BROTHERS who have and still are hurting our sentiments. ASKING SOMEONE WHO IS A BROTHER TO APOLOGISE IS NOT DENYING ISLAM, RATHER IT IS STRENGTHENING OR UNIFYING THE MUSLIMS.


on another point, in my comments above where i said 'every Muslim will remain a Muslim' i did expect you include Murtads into the category. It was more of an identity relating native/religious backgrounds rather than giving a description of just one individual. If one fails to note such a fact from such a comment, then we are having serious communication problems, which could well be used in ways to resolve the issue we are discussing at hand anyway.

[Dhakai]

http://www.dawn.com/2000/08/17/top9.htm

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[BOY_4ROM_BENGAL]

Originally posted by Dhakai:
People don seem to accept the fact those pakis insulted millions of muslim sisters in Bangladesh!!!

Pakis learned lesson?!! Look at the Kashmir! Kashmiri people don wanna be with pakistan either. They want independence though its not my concern. How can you judge all pakis as nice having few Paki friend whereelse you refused to accept all pakis bad seeing the action of thousand paki armies on 1971 or before?

If pakis were muslims or our brothers why couldnt they take mujib as muslim Bangladeshi as their leader? Why did they make a mockery of Bnagladeshis who just voted for a Islamic country by fooling them instantly?

And people should know pakis are not muhammad descendant, They were all once hindu and converted muslims. The language pakis speak urdu is made of Hindi and Farsi mostly and originated from sanskrit. Here again they refused Bangla's right. Why couldnt they except bangla which is also an enriched one and share same source of origin?

Pakis havent learned their lesson yet.
Why don they make an apology? Even if it is a verbal one it can show how much they care for Bangladeshi muslims brothers ?

Even in Pakiland they are having prob with each other over power. When it comes to protect their own benefit nobody compromises except I can see some Bangldeshis who keeps crying for pakis instead of crying for their own people.

Allah will reward people on their act not on who they called brother or not.

[This message has been edited by Dhakai (edited 09 August 2000).]

Attention of Fary

Brother, I am trying to point out that the Pakistani Army may have carried out the mass killings and rapes. But, the Pakistani people at that time should have strongly condemned such action.

Brother Fary, you seem too easily to judge someones opinion without actually exploring the point made, e.g what u said to wais.

Another thing is that you do not provide an alternative perspective or if you do, you do not provide any concrete evidence.

Anyway, I mentioned this earlier and someone touched on the issue again. The role of the British and the Indians is very crucial before the mass killings and rapes.

Yet, all of us have forgotten the actual instigators the Idolaters and the Jesus son of God Worshipers.

Now Brother Fary, if we just expand the issue and compare it to the Holocaust. The Jews have the power to bring those involved in 1945 and punish them today in the Hague.

Why cant Bengalis do that?

Bcos the British, USA, Jews and Indians would not provide the basis for such proceedings to take place. They have created a permanent hatred between the two nations, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Another point Brother Fary, the countries that I have mentioned are working together economically and politically.

The British and Germans were at war in 1945, settled their differences and now they are buddies. The point is that all the Kuffar state have one common enemy (as Putin said) that is Islam.

I am waiting 4 ur contribution br Fary on these points I have outlined.

Please no essays.

[The_Oshik-kitoe]

A salaam to my brother WAIS.

[quote]Originally posted by Wais Islam:
Brother Oshikkitoe, the educated! Salaam.

All Muslims are our brothers but not all of them have hurt the Bangladeshis. If one doesn't feel that pain up until today, then he is denying himself his own history. And if the one who is supposed to be our fellow Muslim brothers fail to acknowledge the existence of such pain then shouldn't THEY be doing the ISLAMIC thing to hold together the brotherliness of the Muslims and apologise or sooth that pain. It is not worth talking to people who do not feel pain and hatred from our other Muslims BROTHERS who have and still are hurting our sentiments. ASKING SOMEONE WHO IS A BROTHER TO APOLOGISE IS NOT DENYING ISLAM, RATHER IT IS STRENGTHENING OR UNIFYING THE MUSLIMS.


Brother Wais.. you are a person who is fully awake! and I did not expect a fair comment as this one.

I don’t disagree with this point at all.

I was actually waiting for a reply from Bengali-boy to say what you have just said.

Originally posted by Wais Islam:
on another point, in my comments above where i said 'every Muslim will remain a Muslim' i did expect you include Murtads into the category. It was more of an identity relating native/religious backgrounds rather than giving a description of just one individual.
If one fails to note such a fact from such a comment, then we are having serious communication problems, which could well be used in ways to resolve the issue we are discussing at hand anyway.

Brother WAIS when you say serious communication problem just what do you mean by that?
If I were you I wouldn’t say communication problem, but rather a communication gap!

Because what you say is what others understand. NOT how you FEEL.
As you expressed your opinions very clearly:

[b]Put simply, every Muslim will remain a Muslim, every Bangali will remain a Bangali, and every PAKI will remain a PAKI,[B/]

'no matter how good or bad these people are'
and their history will dictate the terms and conditions they live their future lives to a considerable extent. End of story


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The Oshik-kitoe


(please read my new topic and give me your opinion)

Jazak Allah.

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[This message has been edited by The Oshik-kitoe (edited 11 August 2000).]

[Wais_Islam]

salaam bro, let us work to fill in those 'gaps'. take care, and thanks for ur comments.

[Anti-Muslim]

How well said and true!
I hate the name Muhammed. It stands for deceit, treachery, fornication, war and oppression. Muslims time has come to get hit back. Beware....Anti-Muslim is out there!