ALLAAH - Who is he?

[WORD]

To muhammad:
Are you Wais Islam? if so why are you playing a double identity?
I am not interested in wasting time with you. Yuo failed to answer my questions about Allah and you tried to distract me. No Sir! I won't fall into your trap.
If you still want to debate me, answer my quesions and lets stick to the topic and not run around. Once we cover the mater then we can discuss another topic.

[muhammad]

To muhammad:
Are you Wais Islam? if so why are you playing a double identity?
I am not interested in wasting time with you. Yuo failed to answer my questions about Allah and you tried to distract me. No Sir! I won't fall into your trap.
If you still want to debate me, answer my quesions and lets stick to the topic and not run around. Once we cover the mater then we can discuss another topic.
I am not Wais - but haven't you realised that this is a public noticeboard? Anyone can answer you're points, but I really get the feeling you don't like me for some reason!

[muhammad]

WORD you said:
To a.baba:
I read several of Deedat's paper and I also read parts of Morice Bucaille's book. Frankly, I despise the two of them because of their stupidities and I can't understand how such asses can have PHDs!
So you don't like them...

Now, answer me guy. Is Deedat a Muslim? I hope that you can answer this simple question and then we can talk about his apologetics and especially about Allah and God. Post his apologetics about Allah here and let me stripe him naked in front of you and all.
The mistake you are making A.Baba is that after A. Deedat's books were published, there was an enormous panick in the christian world. Because of this some christian individuals have dedicated their years of time to researching answers to the points made by A.Deedat. This why word is so confident.

I challenge you, bring his garbage here and let's see if he was a scholar or a monkey in the zoo. Call Badawi or Ghounam... and let me fried them alive in front of all in this site. Bring me also the prophets of Baal in the Church, those who say that Allah is God and let me humiliate them too. Call even the Pope and his aids. Moreover, call satan himself when the others will run away... If you know of any better place where I can debate them (again) don't hesitate to invite me.
Look word, you're struggling to argue with even me - a nobody in the Islamic world! I doubt whether any knowlegable Muslim would waste his time arguing with you, as they would rather discuss with someone who was more of a challenge!

[ush]

Muhammad and the rest,

I don't have to prove anything to you about me or the Bible.

It is you who should prove as your scholars can't prove nothing, I have read the website.

Nice circular arguments and nice made up science stories of the birth cycle.

That theory was Galens's theory in AD 150 around 400yrs before Muhammad so according to you Galen is a prophet not Muhammad.

By science I demolish the quran 10 times

Sunset in a muddy spring ">

Since when?????

What kind of science is this?


The same science that you try to use for your quran proves the quran a book written by human hands and mind.

These errors only confirm quran not word from God.

ush

[muhammad]

Ush you said:
Muhammad and the rest,
I don't have to prove anything to you about me or the Bible.
Simply because you can't.

It is you who should prove as your scholars can't prove nothing, I have read the website.
How do you know the websites are by our scholars? A web site is a web site, nothing more.

Nice circular arguments and nice made up science stories of the birth cycle.
That theory was Galens's theory in AD 150 around 400yrs before Muhammad so according to you Galen is a prophet not Muhammad.
Proof please.

As I asked before: Lets go back to the world wide flood of Noah (as oppose what it says in the Qur'an). Can you please detail why it doesn't contradict modern science before we go any further?

By science I demolish the quran 10 times
Using your own logic.

Sunset in a muddy spring ">
Since when?????
I've already explained this verse before. No Muslim has ever interpreted the verse to mean what you are saying...they would just laugh at you! All christians accept that the Noah's flood covered the entire world though.

What kind of science is this?
Exactly.

The same science that you try to use for your quran proves the quran a book written by human hands and mind.
Only using your unique brand of logic!

These errors only confirm quran not word from God.
You haven't found any errors in the Qur'an. But a book as complex as that is clearly too much for you.

I'm still waiting for your answers on the following questions:

If Jesus (PBUH) is 100% man then he is not 100% God (unless God is man) - this really is basic mathematics. Therefore, Jesus (PBUH) was a prophet not a god.

You like to discuss Islam in a scientific manner, but first prove your own religion - then we'll move on to Islam.

It says in the bible that Jesus (PBUH) prostrated while in prayer...does that remind you of Muslims praying or Christians?

Who was Jesus (PBUH) praying to by the way? If he is 100% god then he must be praying to himself.

Once again - sort out your own back yard before other people's!

[This message has been edited by muhammad (edited 17 July 2000).]

[Wais_Islam]

WORD, Have you no Christian friends that you are trying talk to us Muslims a lot of the time. I am glad your Christian community is relieved that you are not always with them. Mann, you're a right Foga. Now go and find out what that means.

[WORD]

ALWAYS RUNNING AWAY FROM THE TOPIC ABOUT ALLAH AND AVOIDING TO ANSWER OR EVEN REFUTE WHAT I SAID. LOOK FELLAS, YOU WILL NOT SUCCEED DISTRUCTING ME. IN THIS FILE I WON'T DISCUSS ANYTHING ELSE BUT WHO IS YOUR ALLAH.
LET ME REMIND YOU OF SOME OF MY QUESTIONS:
* IS ALLAH THE PROPER NAME OF YOUR GOD OR HIS GENERIC NAME?
* IF IT IS HIS PROPER NAME SO WHY HE DIDN'T REVEAL IT IN THE BIBLE AS HE CLAIMED THAT HE IS THAT SAME GOD? WHY THE BIBLE USES THAT SAME EXACT WORD "ALLAH" FOR OAK TREES AND YAHWEH FORBED TO WORSHIP OR BOW AT THEM?
* IF ITS HIS COMMON NAME SO WHAT IS HIS PROPER NAME OR IN OTHER WORDS HOW MUHAMMAD COULDN'T KNOW GOD'S NAME, YAHWEH, A VERY IMPORTANT CONDITION FOR ANYONE WHO CLAIMS PROPHETHOOD?
* ALMUTAKABBIR AND ALDHAR HAVE NEVER BEEN ATTRIBUTES OF THE BIBLE GOD, ACTUALLY THEY CONTRADICT HIS NATURE AND CHARACTER. DOES GOD CONTRADICT HIMSELF? FURTHERMORE IS ALLAH A LOVING FATHER? WHERE DOES HE SAY OR PROVE THAT HE IS MEEK AND HUMBLE?
* YAHWEH MADE AN EVERLASTING COVENANT WITH ISRAEL. ALLAH ASKS TO BREAK IT AND TO EXTERMINATE THE JEWS. HE CLAIM THAT HE SWITCHED HIS COVENANT TO MUSLIMS. SO DOES GOD CHANGE HIS PROMISES? IF SO AND IF ALLAH IS INDEED GOD, WHO WOULD GARANTY THAT HE WOULDN'T DO THE SAME TO MUSLIMS AND ASK TO EXTERMINATE THEM?
* YAHWEH NEVER SWORE BY ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT HIS OWN NAME BECAUSE HIS NAME IS GREATER THAN ANYTHING THEREFORE HE CAN'T SWEAR BY ANYTHING WHICH IS LESSER THAN HIM. ALLAH HAS NO PROBLEM SWEARING BY PLANETS, STARS, PEOPLE, DEMONS, IDOLS, STONES... ARE THOSE THINGS HIGHER THAN HIM? IF NOT AND IF HE IS GOD, DID HE FORGET HIS PREVIOUS STATEMENT?
* IF ALLAH IS ALLKNOWING HOW COULD HE MAKE A STUPID THEOLOGICAL MISTAKE BY ACCUSING CHRISTIANS OF WORSHIPPING THREE GODS (FATHER/MOTHER/SON)? WHERE THE BIBLE SAYS THAT? IN THIS CASE ALLAH COULD BE EITHER AN IGNORANT OR A DECEIVER AND BTW ALLAH CONFESSES IN HIS QURAN THAT HE IS A DECEIVER. IS ANYWHERE I THE BIBLE GOD SAYS THAT HE IS A DECEIVER?
* DOES ALLAH PRAY TO MUHAMMAD AND THE PROPHETS? IF SO, WHO IS GREATER THEN? IS THERE ANY MENTION IN THE BIBLE THAT YAHWEH PRAYED TO ANYONE ELSE?
NOW, IF ANY OF YOU IS BRAVE AND THINKS THAT HE IS SMART AND KNOWLEGABLE LET HIM ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS RATIONALLY. TILL THEN, I WON'T WAST MY TIME ANYMORE REBUKING YOUR SILLINESS AND ATTEMPTS TO DISTRACT ME AND OTHERS FROM THE TOPIC.
PLEASE, USH, BORNAGAIN AND ANY OTHER CHRISTIAN, DON'T LET THOSE GUYS TURN YOU TO OTHER TOPICS, STICK WITH ME TO OUR TOPIC, ALLAH WHO IS HE?


[This message has been edited by WORD (edited 18 July 2000).]