Why I became a Christian?????

[rahman_shaab]

OK ! OK! STOP SHOUTING !

EVERYONE JUST FOLLOW YOUR OWN RELIGION AND BE HAPPY.

I THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH RELIGION RELATED WARS
AROUND THE WORLD TO END IT ALL.

SO WE DO NOT NEED ONE MORE!

CHILL! BROTHERS.

Rahman.

[TheShah]

Religion is a good enough reason to die for, I reckon!


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[KhadijahIslam]

Assalamualaikum Warahmatullah….

MashAllah Bengali Nutter, u talk so much sense!
There r innumerable contradictions and errors in the bible.
Deuteronomy 18:18 (the Jewish book and 5th book of the bible)

“I will raise then up a Prophet,
from among their brethren LIKE UNTO THEE,
and I will put my words in to his mouth;
and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him”

This was said to Moses (pbuh) by Allah. Even the bible prophesises the coming of the Prophet saw. A man u (bornagain) call a liar. There r a myriad of things that makes Muhammad (saw) LIKE Moses (pbuh). Jesus (pbuh) and Moses (pbuh) share far less, eg:

Jesus (according 2u) was a God (naudhubillah), Moses was not
Jesus (according 2u) died for the sins of the world, Moses did not
Jesus (according 2u) went to hell 4 three days, Moses did not

The only things that made Moses and Jesus (pbut) alike, was that they were both Jews and prophets.

Similarities between Muhammad and Moses (pbut)
Moses had a mom and dad, so did Muhammad- Jesus didn’t
Moses and Muhammad were born in the “normal”, natural course ie: man+women- Jesus was a miracle.
Moses and Muhmmad both married and had children- Jesius didn’t
Moses and Muhammad were accepted as prophets by their ppl, during their lifetimes- Jesus was rejected
Moses and Muhammad were both Prophets and Kings (they had the perogative to inflict capital punishment) –Jesus could not
Both Muhammad and Moses died natural deaths- Jesus (according 2u), was crucified violently on the cross)
Both Muhammad and Moses lie buried in the ground- (according to u), Jesus rests in heaven
Both Moses and Muhammad brought new laws (10 Commandments and Quran)- Jesus did not:

In the bible chapter 5. Verse 17-18: Jesus says he has come with no new law.

Isaiah 29:12
“And the book is deleivered to him that is not learned, saying, read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned”

Muhammad (saw) was un-lettered and un-learned.

Deut 19:18
“My word which he shall speak in my name”
The bible just starts like a story. In the Quran every chapter (except the 9th) begins with:
“In the name of God, most gracious, most merciful…”

I’ll leave u to ponder and InshAllah, may Allah guide u both. Ameen

It’s such as shame some ppl r blind to the TRUTH- Islam
Allah guides whom he will.

Wassalam.

Ps: TheShah....i totally agree

[bornagain]

Bengali Nutter,

I didn't know that Cambridge was recruiting nutters these days!!

Thanks for warning me as I will make sure I don't go to that university or recommend it to my friends as it is a place for nutters:-)

KhadijahIslam,

The false spirit never dies down and keeps coming back with lies...

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This was said to Moses (pbuh) by Allah. Even the bible prophesises the coming of the Prophet saw. A man u (bornagain) call a liar. There r a myriad of things that makes Muhammad (saw) LIKE Moses (pbuh). Jesus (pbuh) and Moses (pbuh) share far less, eg:

Jesus (according 2u) was a God (naudhubillah), Moses was not
Jesus (according 2u) died for the sins of the world, Moses did not
Jesus (according 2u) went to hell 4 three days, Moses did not
>>


The Bible does talk about Muhammad in Matt 24:24-25

24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

24:25 Behold, I have told you before.

See it says that this prophet will lead many astray even the most intelligent ones like you.

Jesus came to save the Jews first as the Messiah and then us the Gentiles.

Muhammad prophet perverted the word of God by not teaching about the Messiah as the saviour but concocted his own DIY religion to say "do good works which can save you".

Jesus never said that but said I am the only way to God and you do good works as a result of being saved not to earn your salvation.

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Deuteronomy 18:18 (the Jewish book and 5th book of the bible)

“I will raise then up a Prophet,
from among their brethren LIKE UNTO THEE,
and I will put my words in to his mouth;
and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him”
>>

Are these Ahmad Deedats words who was a Kafir by the Muslims standards as he distorted the words in the Bible to prove himself so even the South African Muslims said he is a kafir.

Do you know what happened to his so called guru Rashid Khilafa?

He was shot dead.

Muhammad could not fit this prophecy!!!!

Did Muhammad perform miracles like Moses?

Of course not, he claimed to be only a warner and could not perform any miracles.

Did Muhammad save any people from persecution or death?

No for Muhammad invented his cult religion to tell people to do good works, well so does Ram and Sita so he was more like them the Hindu Gods.

Jesus came to save the people from sin and ultimate death so they do not perish after their death.

Jesus performed many miracles like Moses even better.

So your criteria, oh sorry I mean Deedat’s criteria fails here as you have borrowed his words.

Care to read what Paul says about Deut 18:18…

ACTS 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you (talking about Jesus).

ACTS 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

ACTS 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.

ACTS 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Stop living in denial so wake up to the reality of Muhammad who cannot save.

Have you forgotten to read Deut 34:10-12

34:10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, 34:11 In all the signs and the wonders, which the LORD sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land, 34:12 And in all that mighty hand, and in all the great terror which Moses shewed in the sight of all Israel.

God knew this prophet face to face.

*** Muhammad never spoke to God face to face.
*** To perform great signs and wonders...

Muhammad could not perform any miracles.

Bornagain and so can you if you want to be saved.

http://www.debate.org.uk/topics/cool...esus_Saves.gif

[Bangali_Nutter]

Cambridge recruits some of the worlds best nutters, actually!

It is quite evident in your flawed arguments that you failed to acquire any form of education--not even the educaton one gains from worldy exploits and experience... blinded by some half-baked conjecture...

LOL you are funny... I sense a deep frustration in your expression... one that rises from an internal insecurity... unhapiness... ok you can claim that you are happy but they are just words right.... no truly you project yourself as a true loser...

lol

A Cambridge nutter, how about LSE, surely that can;t accept nutters too or can it... I can assure you that there are more Bengali muslims there then Christian Bengalis at LSE and Cambridge... wait maybe that sheds some light on the intelligence of the two bengali groups... lol



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Actually, I'm really quite a nicer guy!

[KhadijahIslam]

Bornagain:
I didnt actually get all that off that Ahmed Deedat Quit assuming.
I'll get back 2u inshAllah
U really sound arrogant.I havent insulted Jesus (pbuh) in ne way, yet u do not refrain from insulting Muhammad pbuh.

bye.

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[bornagain]

Khadijaislam,

You want to follow Muhammad then follow him.

He won't be able to take you to heaven, if I say wrong then please present some factual evidence...

Your religion is just that!

God never gave a religion.

Do you have any evidence to present or just conjecture?

You put your faith in a book (quran) and base your reasoning on the monothestic God who you cannot know.

You bow to a building everyday (kaba) and call that following God!

Kissing the stone as well when you get the chance!

These are all ingredients of idolatery!

Good day to you.

Bengali nutter,

How do you know I haven't got any education?

I may be a graduate from Oxford:-)

You come with empty words, come back with some proof when you come again otherwise you will give your cambridge buddies a bad name!!

Good day to you too.

bornagain