Working in restaurants where wine is served

[sylhet]

peace be upon those who follows true guidance

It is so common for bangali people in england that i think we all need to learn more about this issue..
this is what i have found out now and would like to share with others.
---------------------------------------

What is the ruling on one who works in a restaurant where haraam drinks are sold, but he avoids preparing or carrying these drinks to customers, but he continues to serve the customers if they ask for food and drinks which are not haraam? Taking into account the fact that I pass by people who are drinking them and I see those who are serving them, as it is one place. What is the ruling on the Muslim who deals in them for the purpose of attracting customers? What is the ruling on serving pork to customers when working in that restaurant, as a service and work for the purpose of earning a living? What is the ruling on the owner of a restaurant who has pork and earns money from it?


Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly: it is haraam to work and earn a living by helping people to consume haraam things such as alcohol and pork. The payment for that is haraam, because this is a kind of cooperating in sin and transgression, and Allaah prohibited that when He said (interpretation of the meaning):

“…but do not help one another in sin and transgression…” [al-Maa’idah 5:2]

We advise you to keep away from working in this and similar restaurants, because this will keep you from helping in anything that Allaah has forbidden.

Secondly: it is forbidden for a Muslim to sell haraam things such as pork and alcohol. It was reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“When Allaah forbids a thing, He also forbids its price.”

Provision and the attraction of customers are things that are in the hand of Allaah, and they are not to be found in selling haraam things. The Muslim must fear Allaah and follow His commands and heed His prohibitions.

“And whosoever fears Allaah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out (from every difficulty). And He will provide him from (sources) he never could imagine” [al-Talaaq 65:2-3 – interpretation of the meaning]

for more info pl visit to
http://www.islam-qa.com/QA/5|Fiqh(Jurisprudence_and_Islamic_Rulings)/Al_Ijarah(_Employment_for_a_Salary_)/Ahkaam_al-Wazaa'if_(Ruling_on_jobs)/Working_in_restaurants_where_wine_is_s erved.01042000.3158.shtm



------------------
Allah Hafez
A sister

"I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO DEITY WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER."

[forhad_miah]

Hi.....

Working in an enviroment where alcohol are served is haram 100%.

I agree with u on everything u have said,
I myelf working in a restuarant were i have to serve alcahol, this doesnt mean that my point of view here would be bias.

First of all i have mentioned this before on the subject "buying selling alcahol" which u have just confirmed.

Any way i have spoken to a Alim and he has said to me that in certain condition you are allowed to work in a enviroment were alcahol is served.

One of the reason he has mentioned that if u not capable of getting a job elswhere then working in a restuarnt is not haram for u, because you have to do some kind of work to keep yourself alive.

Another reason he has pointed out is that you already working on a restuarant and getting paid £180 a week which is just enough for you to live on, but you get another job elswhere leaving the restuarant work and earn £150.00 which is really difficult for you to survive on. Then you could go back to your restuarant job.

Subject to that you are actively seeking another job which will pay you enough money to live on.

Forhad Miah
Khuda Hafiz

[heesham]

Forgive my ignorance, but how can you agree and then disagree of sustaining a living. Firstly, in a country like England it is very difficult to starve to death, unless offcourse you are a total looser. Secondly, there are so many opportunities out there, in fact I know people who are doing three jobs all at once (earning mega-bucks chaps/ies).
You see the message sylhet is trying to convey is that haram or anything associated with haram are all but the same. Doing or promoting or causing are all linked as a chain.
Now according to authentic sources sylhets interpretaion is accurate, unfortunately, forhad's source the DODGY MULLAH is incorrect here and his advice must be dismissed as his dodgy means to earn his dodgy income, and to venerate himself as a wise man.

heesham
the truth is out there.......

[forhad_miah]

To Heesham....

Heesham you got a perfect picture of everything, yes there is a lot of oppertunity for poeple living in this country,
But have u though about the people who are not living in this country.

Even in England here ther are so many bangladeshi people unemployed is it right for them rely on the state.is it halal to get money from the government when you are fit enough to work.

What i have mentioned is that if you are fit enough to work and cannot find a job, for the meantime working in an enviroment were they sell alcahol is halal that's is subject to that person is actively looking for another job.

A question for Heesham

Is working at an superstore halal if you are selling or serving alcahol?

Heesham please response.

[aff]

Hello, Sylhet, Heesham and Forhad, I hope all is well!

Its intresting that this subject arises once again. My views on this have already been expressed, however I would like to add that what is wronge with simpley opening a takeaway, where the meat sold is halal.
The income may not be as much as that obtained from a fully licensed resturaunt which sells alcohol, however there is some profit to be gained and above all it is halal. Why are such indian takeaways a minority in such an industry... (minority in relation to a fully licensed resturaunt..).

To read other opinions on this subject you might like to read the topic..... .....'BUYING/SELLING ALCOHOL, WRONGE OR RIGHT?'..its under 'open Board' on page 3.

takecare.
aff

[heesham]

Forhad

A wrong is a wrong under whatever circumstances. Excuses and arguments can be given, and believe it or not this is human nature, however, it does not make a wrong, right!
Would you kill to make a living? If circumstances were so would this act become acceptable?

heesham
the truth is out there........

[sylhet]

i have heard ur argumant and i came across more fact. i would be suprised if u want to deny the words from Quran. MAy Allah help us to learn the truth. Amen


Peace be upon those who follow true guidance

Students working in restaurants that serve alcohol and pork

Many Muslim students in this country have to work to cover their tuition and living expenses, because for many of them, what they get from their families is not enough. This makes it essential for them to work as they cannot make ends meet otherwise. Often the only work they can find is in these restaurants that sell wine or offer meals containing pork or other haraam things. What is the ruling on working in these places? What is the ruling on a Muslim selling wine and pork, or producing wine and selling it to non-Muslims, given that some Muslims in these countries have taken this as their profession?

Praise be to Allaah.
If a Muslim cannot find work that is permissible according to sharee’ah, he may work in restaurants run by kaafirs, so long as he himself does not directly deal with pouring wine or carrying it or making it or selling it. The same applies to serving pork and other haraam things.
Majma’ al-Fiqh al-Islami, p. 45


------------------
Allah Hafez
A sister

"I BEAR WITNESS THAT THERE IS NO DEITY WORTHY OF WORSHIP EXCEPT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS MESSENGER."