Can A Muslim Do Wrong?

[Amar-Sonar-Bangla]

Can a follower of Islam, a Muslim, do wrong? If a Muslim does a wrong does he/she automatically stop being a Muslim? Is it so easy to disassociate the wrong actions of a Muslim from Islam? Even though that wrong action may well have been committed as a result of Islamic teachings and practice.


For example, killing a fellow human being is a sin. However, under certain situations such as a Holy War (Jihad) and actions involved in 'defending Islam' killing 'infidels' is a positive virtue.


Surely those Muslims who argue that fellow Muslims become non-Muslims for doing wrong are no better than the Andy Weliks of this world, who would argue that they have been forgiven of their wrongs because they've embraced Jesus The Saviour?


Surely true understanding comes only when one is prepared to question ones understanding of their beliefs?

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Can a follower of Islam, a Muslim, do wrong?

yes

If a Muslim does a wrong does he/she automatically stop being a Muslim?

No

Is it so easy to disassociate the wrong actions of a Muslim from Islam? Even though that wrong action may well have been committed as a result of Islamic teachings and practice. [/quote]

If an action is consistent with Islamic teachings and practise - it can't be disassociated from Islam.. by definition. The crux is whether or not one believes the action is consistent with Islamic teachings.

Surely those Muslims who argue that fellow Muslims become non-Muslims for doing wrong are no better than the Andy Weliks of this world, who would argue that they have been forgiven of their wrongs because they've embraced Jesus The Saviour?

You can have sinful Muslims and you can have "Muslims" whose actions/beliefs make them fall into Disbelief.. but i don't follow the link between this and believing that Jesus died to save Christians

[rini_h]

Originally posted by Amar-Sonar-Bangla


Can a follower of Islam, a Muslim, do wrong? If a Muslim does a wrong does he/she automatically stop being a Muslim?

anyone can do wrong things. sometime they wont understand the religion and do wrong things from that.

if someone done a wrong thing but still thinks they done it right because of islam then i think there still muslim . allahs judge. on that.

[amee_patla_na]

Originally posted by Amar-Sonar-Bangla


Can a follower of Islam, a Muslim, do wrong? If a Muslim does a wrong does he/she automatically stop being a Muslim?

at the end of the day, a muslim is STILL a human.

[Khilari]

Originally posted by Amar-Sonar-Bangla
Can a follower of Islam, a Muslim, do wrong? If a Muslim does a wrong does he/she automatically stop being a Muslim? Is it so easy to disassociate the wrong actions of a Muslim from Islam? Even though that wrong action may well have been committed as a result of Islamic teachings and practice.
For example, killing a fellow human being is a sin. However, under certain situations such as a Holy War (Jihad) and actions involved in 'defending Islam' killing 'infidels' is a positive virtue.
Surely those Muslims who argue that fellow Muslims become non-Muslims for doing wrong are no better than the Andy Weliks of this world, who would argue that they have been forgiven of their wrongs because they've embraced Jesus The Saviour?
Surely true understanding comes only when one is prepared to question ones understanding of their beliefs?

haha.

"a Muslim does a wrong does he/she automatically stop being a Muslim?

who becomes a 'muslim' or 'non-muslim'... isn't that Allaah's "job"? isn't a muslim someone who practices Islam...?

"Even though that wrong action may well have been committed as a result of Islamic teachings and practice."

A wrong action when a result of misunderstood Islamic practices...

"Surely those Muslims who argue that fellow Muslims become non-Muslims for doing wrong are no better than..."

yep.

[MAC]

Asalamualikum
Of course a Muslims can do wrong after all they are
human beings. Human beings make mistakes its natural.

jus cos a muslim commits sins does not make him a disbeliever. Sins committed by an Individual could be as a result of jahilaya.

U only become a non believer if u associate partners wid Allah as stated in the Quran.

Amar-Sonar-Bangla Wrote:

Surely those Muslims who argue that fellow Muslims become non-Muslims for doing wrong are no better than..."

I concur



Wsalam

[Amar-Sonar-Bangla]

The consensus seems to be that Muslims are but human beings and are indeed capable of doing wrong. A brief study of history, for instance, the Muslim invasion of the Indian subcontinent, the Armenian and Bangali genocides, will suffice as salient examples.

A good Muslim therefore does not necessarily make a good human being. Being a good Muslim does not guarantee one becomes a better person.

One can be a good muslim only by following the Qur’an and various Hadith and the Qur’an and Hadith teaches fairness and unfairness both. For instance, men are permitted up to four wives while conversely polyandry is forbidden. So one cannot follow it in both directions.

Furthermore, if Muslims do not stop being a Muslim for doing wrong (often grievous wrongs), then it is logical that the responsibility for their actions is put on their guiding principles, in the case of Muslims, Islam. This can only lead to more reasonable interpretations of the divine texts.