Here are a few quick facts about the Hindu gods.?

[Aryavarta]

The religion of the Vedas must be separated from modern Hinduism. The Vedic religion was basically pure and untainted from Dravidian and native practices of puja and phallic worship. The true Aryan religion centered around the fire(Agni)in the practice of Yajna. Vedism has been corrupted by the contact with native cultures to form the modern Hinduism with its idol worship and puja. The true bearers of Aryan faith are some Brahmins of India who are the descendents of the brave, noble Aryan forebears who entered the subcontinent around 1500 B.C. The beauty of the Vedas compares to no other religious text. It shows a proud and noble people who are life loving and not life denying like the later Buddhists, Jains, and Hindus.

[samtel]

Originally posted by Aryavarta
The religion of the Vedas must be separated from modern Hinduism. The Vedic religion was basically pure and untainted from Dravidian and native practices of puja and phallic worship. The true Aryan religion centered around the fire(Agni)in the practice of Yajna. Vedism has been corrupted by the contact with native cultures to form the modern Hinduism with its idol worship and puja. The true bearers of Aryan faith are some Brahmins of India who are the descendents of the brave, noble Aryan forebears who entered the subcontinent around 1500 B.C. The beauty of the Vedas compares to no other religious text. It shows a proud and noble people who are life loving and not life denying like the later Buddhists, Jains, and Hindus.

Pure Crap ...... Gautama Buddha revolted against these so called Aryan practices and made the most practical reforms. Hinduism is basically a collective name of all these religions Budhism, jainism, Sanatan Dharma, Vedism, Brahminism, Arya samajis, brahmo samajis and so on. To claim this is right and that is wrong is behaving like Mu-Slims, utter foolishness. Every faith is great in its own place so far it does not create any problem in the society. Do not follow the foot steps of Muslims, my dear Arya Putra or Arya Varta......

[Arya-Putra]

ll Namaste ll


Desi-soul:

"Hinduism has evolved and adopted new thoughts and new ways of life...since its birth some roughly 7 thousand years ago from maitrism. Hinduism has survived though 7,000 years...and still today its the 3rd largest religion followed round the world...that itself is commendable."

Maitrism? Do you seriously beleive that? Oh well, i guess that could be arguable til the cows come home, so i'll leave it here.

As for modern day hinduism, it didnt survive 7000 years as you say. Vedic teachings were distorted by those who chose not to follow the path and be free from their religious obligations and duties and 'do what they wanted to'. Had the proper Vedic laws been enacted to punish those who chose to modify and malign Vedic teachings, such things would not of lead off to a smaller Vedist community now.

Hinduism was born when these free thinkers went off and mixed with idol worshipping cultures in Arya-Varta. Then came the birth of Hinduism, with its statues and pictures and all the other stuff that is quite meaningless. To push it along came the Bhagvad Geeta in which Shree Krishna reveals His true form to Arjuna, and as described in the Bhagvad Geeta, He, Krishna, "The Supreme Lord", looks like this:


Chapter 11, Verses 8-31

(LK= Lord Krishna speaks, A=Arjuns speaks, S= Sanjay speaks)

LK: "But you cannot see Me with your present eyes. Therefore I give you divine eyes. Behold My mystic opulence!"

S: "O King, having spoken thus, the Supreme Lord of all mystic power, the Personality of Godhead, displayed His universal form to Arjuna.

Arjuna saw in that universal form unlimited mouths, unlimited eyes, unlimited wonderful visions. The form was decorated with many celestial ornaments and bore many divine upraised weapons. He wore celestial garlands and garments, and many divine scents were smeared over His body. All was wondrous, brilliant, unlimited, all-expanding.

If hundreds of thousands of suns were to rise at once into the sky, their radiance might resemble the effulgence of the Supreme Person in that universal form.

At that time Arjuna could see in the universal form of the Lord the unlimited expansions of the universe situated in one place although divided into many, many thousands.

Then, bewildered and astonished, his hair standing on end, Arjuna bowed his head to offer obeisances and with folded hands began to pray to the Supreme Lord."

A: "My dear Lord Krishna, I see assembled in Your body all the demigods and various other living entities. I see Brahma sitting on the lotus flower, as well as Lord Shiva and all the sages and divine serpents.

O Lord of the universe, O universal form, I see in Your body many, many arms, bellies, mouths and eyes, expanded everywhere, without limit. I see in You no end, no middle and no beginning.

Your form is difficult to see because of its glaring effulgence, spreading on all sides, like blazing fire or the immeasurable radiance of the sun. Yet I see this glowing form everywhere, adorned with various crowns, clubs and discs.

You are the supreme primal objective. You are the ultimate resting place of all this universe. You are inexhaustible, and You are the oldest. You are the maintainer of the eternal religion, the Personality of Godhead. This is my opinion.

You are without origin, middle or end. Your glory is unlimited. You have numberless arms, and the sun and moon are Your eyes. I see You with blazing fire coming forth from Your mouth, burning this entire universe by Your own radiance.

Although You are one, You spread throughout the sky and the planets and all space between. O great one, seeing this wondrous and terrible form, all the planetary systems are perturbed.

All the hosts of demigods are surrendering before You and entering into You. Some of them, very much afraid, are offering prayers with folded hands. Hosts of great sages and perfected beings, crying “All peace!” are praying to You by singing the Vedic hymns.

All the various manifestations of Lord Shiva, the Adityas, the Vasus, the Sadhyas, the Visvedevas, the two Asvis, the Maruts, the forefathers, the Gandharvas, the Yakshas, the Asuras and the perfected demigods are beholding You in wonder.

O mighty-armed one, all the planets with their demigods are disturbed at seeing Your great form, with its many faces, eyes, arms, thighs, legs, and bellies and Your many terrible teeth; and as they are disturbed, so am I.

O all-pervading Vishnu, seeing You with Your many radiant colors touching the sky, Your gaping mouths, and Your great glowing eyes, my mind is perturbed by fear. I can no longer maintain my steadiness or equilibrium of mind.

O Lord of lords, O refuge of the worlds, please be gracious to me. I cannot keep my balance seeing thus Your blazing deathlike faces and awful teeth. In all directions I am bewildered.

All the sons of Dhritarashtra, along with their allied kings, and Bhishma, Drona, Karna—and our chief soldiers also—are rushing into Your fearful mouths. And some I see trapped with heads smashed between Your teeth.

As the many waves of the rivers flow into the ocean, so do all these great warriors enter blazing into Your mouths.

I see all people rushing full speed into Your mouths, as moths dash to destruction in a blazing fire.

O Vishnu, I see You devouring all people from all sides with Your flaming mouths. Covering all the universe with Your effulgence, You are manifest with terrible, scorching rays.

O Lord of lords, so fierce of form, please tell me who You are. I offer my obeisances unto You; please be gracious to me. You are the primal Lord. I want to know about You, for I do not know what Your mission is."

"Very few, Hindus know that a PART of their..........and to question our own creation is not a sin!!

> C.R.A.P. Nuff sed.


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ARYA-VARTA:

"The true bearers of Aryan faith are some Brahmins of India who are the descendents of the brave, noble Aryan forebears who entered the subcontinent around 1500 B.C."

> You actually believe the Aryan invasion THEORIES that theyve been teaching in history class? At the least, such a theory should be insulting to you considering that youre praising the Vedas so much. On this point alone, i am on the other side. I refuse to beleive such balonie, and you will to, when you read the Vedas beginning to end as i have done. Remember the british methods of tearing a family of people apart> divide and rule = Aryans vs. Dravidians?

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Samtel:

"Pure Crap ...... Gautama Buddha revolted against these so called Aryan practices and made the most practical reforms. Hinduism is basically a collective name of all these religions Budhism, jainism, Sanatan Dharma, Vedism, Brahminism, Arya samajis, brahmo samajis and so on."

> Youre right. Hinduism is nothing more than a personal thought, not worthy of being called a religion (what religion/DHARMA/law/practice are you following if youve decided to create your own from a mix-and-match session?). The word religion itself is derived from RELIGO, which means to 're-align', in this sense, morally in society, and, with GOD.

To claim this is right and that is wrong is behaving like Mu-Slims, utter foolishness. Every faith is great in its own place so far it does not create any problem in the society. Do not follow the foot steps of Muslims, my dear Arya Putra or Arya Varta....."

> Firstly, Vedism and Judaism are two of the worlds oldest structured religions, therefore we arent behaving like muslims or viceversa. Its you who is not behaving like an athiest. Btw, religion does not create problems in society. Its followers do, based on their own interpretations, beliefs, and actions.



ll Pranaam ll

[samtel]

HINDUISM AND OTHER RELIGIONS

By David Frawley



Do You Think Hinduism is a Superior Religion?

Hinduism is a religion that includes both the high and the low, which recognizes the spiritual needs of people at all levels. There are no spiritual practices in any religion, whether it is the most simple nature worship or the most exalted meditational approach, without counterparts in Hinduism. Hinduism is thereby probably the most comprehensive religion in the world. This is because it is not trapped in the seeking of superiority but recognizes the same Divine Being and common human aspiration everywhere. Such comprehensiveness in religion is needed today.

However we should seek out the highest Truth, which is to know the Self, and this requires going beyond lesser truths. Recognizing the Self as the real goal of religion, Hinduism partakes of the highest Truth and does not stop short with secondary goals. But that highest Truth exists for all who look deeply into who they really are. No group can claim to own it, though only those who have realized it can really guide us to it.

Yet should some Hindus regard their religion as superior it need not bother anyone. In fact members of all religions tend to think that. Certainly Hindus have many good reasons to do so, with their great spiritual and cultural traditions. Even if we regard our religion as superior we should remain open to the views of others and seek to discover the Truth through developing the higher states of consciousness wherein Truth can be perceived directly within us. It should encourage us to work harder at our own connection with God or Truth, not to sit smugly by and judge others as unholy merely because they don't think the same way we do.

HINDUISM AND OTHER RELIGIONS



Would You Like to See Other People Become Hindus?

I think it could be of great benefit for the world, particularly if it is done with a real understanding of the Hindu tradition. The discovery of Sanatana Dharma or the universal teaching is like going home, rediscovering one's Self. The greater the number of people who discover the meaning of Sanatana Dharma and its universal view, the less the warring creeds will be able to divide people and the less materialism will lead people astray.

Becoming a Hindu in the true sense means recognizing that all the spiritual and religious practices of humanity from the most primitive savage to the most exalted yogi have their place in the universal Dharma and should be honored for the genuineness of aspiration behind them, not superficially judged according to their name and form. Such a synthetic view is what we all need today, whether it comes through Hinduism or another source.

Why should it bother us if people join one religion or another? The main thing is that we should join a religion or spiritual group as a means of finding the Truth, the God within, which is our real Self. Otherwise whatever we join is only an illusion. The beauty of becoming a Hindu is that it provides many approaches to Self-knowledge and God-realization.

[amu]

Similar debate between those who call themselves 'Salafi' and those who follow one of the 4 madhabs not sure what the 4 are called but one is Hanafi. Then you have the shia, ahmadiya(?) etc etc....

Vedas / Hindu etc etc....