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Old 22nd February 2003, 19:25
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Can somebody answer the question at the BOTTOM?

Thus we have the NEW KING JAMES VERSION today in todays spoken English. Any grade 6 student should be able to read it and understand it.
(IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF THE BIBLE WANTS EVERY HUMAN BEING TO READ AND UNDERSTAND HIS WORD, and therefore made HIS WORD available in every languge of the world so that NOBODY CAN SAY: "I did not have the opportunity to know JEHOVAH)."

The QUESTION:
Do you as a MUSLIM believe that the ORIGINAL King James Bible of 1611 A.D. is IDENTICAL IN ITS THEOLOGY to the NEW KING JAMES BIBLE, both in the OT and the NT?
HOW COME THE ACT OF TRANSLATION FROM HEBREW TO ENGLISH, IS THE ACT OF GOD, FOR AVERAGE PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. WHY DID NOT GOD SEND THE BIBLE IN ENGLISH ? HEBREW IS FOR LIMITED PEOPLE AND BIBLE WAS FOR LIMITED TIME. NO ONE ARGUES THAT BIBLE IS WRONG ? AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT OLD TESTAMENT ?

ARABIC IS A LIVING LANGUAGE, AND NOT A SINGLE WORD OF 'QURAN'IS CHANGED. TO KEEP IT IN ACTUAL WORDS, IT WAS SENT IN ARABIC.
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Old 22nd February 2003, 20:51
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[quote]Originally posted by Andywelik
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Originally posted by SHYLETTI-GUNDAH-BYSAB
JESUS IM JUST AN ORDINARY GUY THERES NO NEED TO ANSWER...

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My Response:

Please read the following from YOUR OWN KORAN about ISA Son of Marium (i.e. Jesus Christ).

[2.87] ... and We gave Isa, the son of Marium, clear arguments and **strengthened him with the holy spirit,**

My question: Where does it say in the Koran that Allah did the above to MOHAMMAD?

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[2.253] ... and We gave clear **miracles to Isa son of Marium**, and **strengthened him with the holy spirit.**

My question:
Where does it say in the Koran that Allah did the above to Mohammad?

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[3.45] When the angels said: O Marium, surely Allah gives you good news with a Word from Him (of one) whose name is the **Messiah,** (Messiah means SPECIALLY ANOINTED ONE OF ALMIGHTY GOD) Isa son of Marium, worthy of regard in this world and the hereafter and of those who are made near (to Allah).

My question:
Same as the previous two QUESTIONS.

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[3.55] And when Allah said: O Isa, I am going to terminate the period of your stay (on earth) and cause you to ascend unto Me and purify you of those who disbelieve and make those who follow you above those who disbelieve to the day of resurrection;

My Question:

Same as above.

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[5.110] When Allah will say: O **Isa son of Marium! Remember **My favor on you and on your mother**, when I **strengthened you I with the holy Spirit**, **you spoke** to the people **in the cradle**...

...and when you determined out of clay a thing like the form of a bird by My permission, **then you breathed into it and it became a bird** by My permission, and **you healed the blind** and **the leprous** by My permission; and when **you brought forth the dead** by My permission;

My Question:

When did ALLAH EVER do anything like the above to Mohammad?

REMEMBER THAT ISA and Mohammad were BOTH PROPHETS of ALLAH **ACCORDING** to the Koran.

BUT, BUT, BUT,

ONLY ISA had all the FAVOURS FROM ALLAH.

So, HOW can you say that ISA was just an ordinary man?

EITHER YOU do not know your Koran or you are DELIBERATELY LYING.

Which is it?
More like you are a liar and you do not know Qur'an.

Christians lied about Jesus, making him a God, the idiots.

The Prophet Muhammad pbuh, was given revelations correcting the Christians. So when the early muslims fled to Abyssinia for protection, the Christian king was about to have them returned to Mecca, when one of the Companions recited Surah Maryam, the beauty of which removed the animosity from the Christian King's heart and he guaranteed their safety in his Kingdom.

Why would Muhammad pbuh need to have his story told in a Revelation? Unlike the Christians, we did not lie, glorify and worship our prophet pbuh.

Muhammad has the whole of the Sunnah dedicated to his whole life.
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Old 23rd February 2003, 03:27
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You asked:

>>HOW COME THE ACT OF TRANSLATION FROM HEBREW TO ENGLISH, IS THE ACT OF GOD,?<<

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Response:

My good friend, I am SORRY to note that you are IGNORANT about the acts of ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH-GOD!

Can't you see that it is HE WHO IS running the whole universe, every moment of every day?

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You wrote:

>>... WHY DID NOT GOD SEND THE BIBLE IN ENGLISH ? <<

Response:

He did, but NOT ACCORDING TO YOUR WILL, BUT according to HIS WILL and TIMING.

Right NOW, Jehovah-God is providing every means available in the world to SPREAD HIS WORDS to all corners of PLANET EARTH. He does it by getting HIS WORDS TRANSLATED into every known language, so that NO HUMAN BEING WILL EVER OPEN his/her mouth and say on JUDGMENT DAY: "I did not have your words in my own mother tongue, and so I was IGNORANT about it!"

Jehovah-God is WISE ENOUGH to make sure that no human being is left out, as regards HIS WORDS TO MANKIND.

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You: >>HEBREW IS FOR LIMITED PEOPLE<<

Response:
Yes, it was for a short time only, until HE GOT THE WORLD READY to reveive HIS WORDS in other languages. When the right time came, HE made it POSSIBLE thru' HIS SCRIBES to TRANSLATE the HEBREW WORDS into all the LANGUAGES OF TODAY.
Thus, HE removed the LIMITATION forever.

You: >> AND BIBLE WAS FOR LIMITED TIME.<<

Response: Maybe in your own mind, but IT IS NOT SO in the mind of Jehovah-God. The Holy Bible is the BEST SELLING BOOK every YEAR from the time PRINTING WAS INVENTED about 500 years ago.

You: >>NO ONE ARGUES THAT BIBLE IS WRONG ?<<

Response: Then you are not a MUSLIM. Or you are HIDING THE TRUTH.

Every Muslim is taught that the Bible has been CORRUPTED and IS BEING CORRUPTED EVEN TODAY.

You:>> AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT OLD TESTAMENT ?

Response: The OT is VALID TODAY AS IT WAS FIRST GIVEN by Jehovah-God to Moses, and all the other PROPHETS.

You: >>ARABIC IS A LIVING LANGUAGE,<<

Response: Do you think that ALL THE LANGUAGES OF THE WORLD TODAY are dead?

For your information, ENGLISH IS THE MOST ALIVE language in the world today, and GUESS WHAT, the MOST NUMBER of Bibles today are available in the English language!!!

And do you know who made it POSSIBLE for the ENGLISH LANGUGE to be a WORLD-Language?
JEHOVAH-GOD, the Almighty God of the Holy Bible!!!

Think about this: If it was the god of the Koran who is in charge, don't you believe that it would have been ARABIC that would be the world-language of today?

FYI, Arabic was NEVER a world-languge at any time in world history. But Greek was at one time. Why? Because Greek was the language of the NEW TESTAMENT.

Now can you see HOW WISE Jehovah-God of the Bible is?

The above facts prove beyond doubt that the god of the Koran was NEVER in CONTROL of world events.

If he WAS and IS, please tell me why everything is going AGAINST the ARABS, right now, in the Middle East? (Iraq, PLO, Arafat, Iran etc).
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Old 23rd February 2003, 03:49
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Originally posted by Andywelik
You asked:

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Response:

My good friend, I am SORRY to note that you are IGNORANT about the acts of ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH-GOD!

-Can't you see that it is HE WHO IS running the whole universe, every moment of every day?

-The above facts prove beyond doubt that the god of the Koran was NEVER in CONTROL of world events.

-If he WAS and IS, please tell me why everything is going AGAINST the ARABS, right now, in the Middle East? (Iraq, PLO, Arafat, Iran etc).
THANKS FOR ADDRESSING ME YOUR 'GOOD FRIEND'.

-Can't you see that it is HE WHO IS running the whole universe, every moment of every day?
ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THIS STATMENT ?

-The above facts prove beyond doubt that the god of the Koran was NEVER in CONTROL of world events.
-If he WAS and IS, please tell me why everything is going AGAINST the ARABS, right now, in the Middle East? (Iraq, PLO, Arafat, Iran etc).
THEN WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ? IF THERE IS ANOTHER POWER THEN WHY ALMIGHTY JEHOVAH-GOD! DOES NOT STOP IT. TEL ME IF IT IS JEHOVAH-GOD'S ACT OR NOT???

AND YES I AM A MUSLIM, AND WE ALL MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN 'TAURAT', 'ZABUR','INJEEL' AND 'QURAN'.

AND PLEASE TELL ME IF THERE WAS AN OLD TESTAMENT (IN GREEK), WHAT WAS THE NEED OF A NEW TESTAMENT (AND THAT IS IN HEBREW.) WITH DIFFERENT ORDERS.
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