thirty years of _ _ _ _

[fug]

asslama wa alaikum,

I hope I find you all in the best of health and iman.

I am not sure if this is the correct place for this post but here goes anyway.....


Many sincere people will be rejoicing at the 30th anniversary of the succesion of east pakistan.

I and many others are not, but accept that we must work for a more enlightened future.

please, please, please can anybody explain the benefits of this new nation with respect to the following.

International Image
-the present foreign minister IS a prize winning baboon

Military Strength
-was that a MIG 21 i saw marking a roundabout in dhaka

Negotiating Strength
-nuff sed really elsewhere on forum

Islamic Identity
-prostituion is legal
-fatwas banned

Corruption

'Free' Press
-is it really that important that mrs choudhury is complaining about the poor refuse collection in her bit of dhanmondi?

Industrialisation

[yasmin]

Assuming you come from Pakistan we could ask the same of Pakistan.

International Image ahem ahem

Military Strength
-was that a MIG 21 i saw marking a roundabout in Islamabad

Negotiating Strength
-nuff sed really elsewhere on forum

Islamic Identity
Raping of villagers
Terrorism galore

Corruption Bhutto?

'Free' Press
-is it really that important that mrs Parveen is complaining about the poor refuse collection in her bit of dhanmondi?

Industrialisation

[koyes]

If we had so much in common why did we split up????

fug is probably a Bangladeshi, how else would he know, there was place called shanmondhi in Bangladesh.

[fug]

salam,

would you stop associating any criticism as an attack from somewhere you do not regard as home?

In pakistan with the coup and all there is a little hope for a better future.

Military strength.
Our Pakistani brothers do kick arse, there a sooo many trained mujahideen there. I consider them an asset. Are we in bangladesh in a position to liberate the Rohingya muslims?

Islamic Identity.
Islamic movements have a better time in pak, 'our government' hold them in contempt, label them, torture them, kill them...

Nationalism and tribalism are not from Islam, how did the split serve Islam and protect the rights of the people??




we split because we were and are dumb, evil to each other and do not follow Islam as we should. we were gulible and got played by our neighbour to our humiliation and cost

Astagfirullah

[mhnew]

Pakistan was not an Islamic country and we split. And it isn't still. Most Pakistanis are good people but many have a wrong conception of Islamic unity.
We keep having this argument and I am tired of it.

Many of us have no interest in going back 30 years ago. Neither of this govt serve an interest of Islam. And don't give me bull about that.

We should work towards understanding and spreading the message of Islam among people so that the people are ready to call for an Islamic system. That is the prophet's example. To make numerous muslim countries where people have half-ideas of Islam is not the solution.

[paki-from-71]

mnhew is not only a mad bengali, but he has no idea about Pakistan, or his own religion.

Was it Pakistan or Bangladesh that supported Afghanistan in the Soviet War? Pakistan sent in it's own men to fight for Islam. Why wasnt Bangladesh sending it's men? Bangladesh has as many people doesnt it?

Was it not the Pakistan Army, so dreaded in Bangladesh, that launched the only counter offensive against the Serbs in Bosnia Herzagovina in 1996? Why was it not Bangladsh, another Islamic country? They too were there in the peace keeping force.

Was it not the Pakistan Army, so dreaded in Bangladesh, that used to eat once a day only, while giving their next meal to the Muslim Gorillas in Bosnia. The Bengladeshi soldiers were too busy chatting away with their great ally from 1971, India.

Is it Pakistan or Bangladesh that supports Kashmir today in their Jihad for liberation? Knowing Bangladesh's history, it should have been Bangladesh rather than Pakistan to support the Kashmiris. It is only confusion created by the Indians that Kashmiris want to join Pakistan. I met 10 Kashmiris in the last week and none of them wants to join Pakistan, but all want to break away from India.

Pakistan has 72, 00000 Jihadis, who fight not only in Kashmir, but also in Palestine and Chechnya. Why arent there any men from the great Bangladesh.

Pakistan has the A bomb. Does Bangladesh have the A bomb? The bomb has already been touted as the Islamic Bomb for Pakistan is the only muslim country to have done so in the world. Why wasnt it Bangladesh? If today there is an "Islam vs the World" War, at least the Muslims have the atomic bomb.

There are more websites on Islam made by Pakistani Ullema than in any other Muslim state. Why not Bangladesh? They have the same amount of people.

Pakistan is the only country to not have recognized Israel. Why does Bangladesh recognize it? Look what the Israelis did in the last few days to the Palestinians.

1 million under 5 kids are going to die in Afghanistan in the next 4 months. Pakistan is trying to get them some food and pay for it out of their skins. There is no money in the country yet the Pakistani people are trying whatever they can to support them. The goverment is trying as well. Very soon they will launch the movement for it as well if nothing can be done otherwise. If Bangladesh is such a great muslim nation, why is it not concerned about these kids who are dying? Bangladesh, by not recognizing Taliban, is saying that they are all terrorists. Even Saudi Arabia recognizes Taliban, and tries to help them out at humanitarian basis. Why does Bangladesh, while siding with their chums India, allow muslim children to be killed like this.

Pakistan is not a great state by any strech of imagination, but it is definitely better than the Bangladesh; at least as far as service to Islam is concerned.

HAVING SAID ALL THIS, I MUST EXPRESS MY DELIGHT AT BANGLADESH KICKING INDIAs BACKSIDE IN THE RECENT CLASH BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES.

[Star]

Thanks for that piece of Pakistani Nationalism/Patiotism whatever you call it - certainly not Islam.

[you forgot to mention third most corrupt nation in the world according to OECD]

Pakistan didn't send it's army - the UN sent it's army to Bosnia.

Amongst the UN alleged peace keaping forces around the world - the Bangladesh army far outweighs the Pakistan force.

But unlike you i am not going down the non-Islamic route of comparing Bangladesh to Pakistan.

I shall compare Bangladeshi Muslims to Pakistani Muslims - of which there are good and bad on both sides.

As for the separation of Pakistan - Mr Jinnah was never an Islamist - East Pakistan was created as an extension of Pakistan.... the entire structure of the state was designed in favour of the West and in prepartion for the separation that followed.

Had a better structure been adopted given both sides equal rights then the situation may have been different. But the problems were there from the very start.