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Old 21st November 2002, 04:34
Mughal Mughal is offline
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Dear all,

Exchanging ideas is absolutely vital for making ourselves better people and our world a better place.

We are all born ignorant and with life full of problems. Unless we learn to understand our problems and try and solve them ourselves no one else will, so pain and suffering or even death and destruction is our only destination.

Please think about it seriously and look for solutions in the right places in a right sort of way.

Good luck and best wishes

Mughal at http://www.religionandsecularism.gq.nu
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Old 25th November 2002, 15:27
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number one we were born on fitrah...some ov us die on fitrah too the only guarantee one has is that malikul maut will take our soul from the collar bone..
religion n secularism..
if ur muslim i advise u to close that open mind to secul;arism n open that closed mind to the mubaarak tariqa ov uswathun hasana..
n if u didnt understand what i said u bettr ask nicely...
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Old 15th December 2002, 21:53
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Originally posted by Mughal
Dear all,

Exchanging ideas is absolutely vital for making ourselves better people and our world a better place.

We are all born ignorant and with life full of problems. Unless we learn to understand our problems and try and solve them ourselves no one else will, so pain and suffering or even death and destruction is our only destination.

Please think about it seriously and look for solutions in the right places in a right sort of way.

Good luck and best wishes

Mughal at http://www.religionandsecularism.gq.nu
OI Your Mughalship, tell me first, you don't agree with secularism do you?!?!?!?!

If u do, then what sort of a Mughal r u? A fake one or a usurper.

A thousand pardons for dissing your high authority your Mughalness only if secularism is your thing then you should be done for treason...to your Muslim people.
I mean we were the warriors of Islam and spread this complete way of life to Spain and ruled India under it for 9 peaceful centuries...if we ruled with Islam then why should secularism be an issue...Islam's a complete way of life remember...or did u forget?

I hope u're not another 'Uncle Aurangzeb' in the making.



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Old 15th December 2002, 22:29
Amar-Sonar-Bangla Amar-Sonar-Bangla is offline
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Hmmm...9 peaceful centuries of Islamic rule. Bit subjective analysis of history Slaya?

Many of the so-called Khaliphates during this era could not be counted as Islamic in the usual sense. Most leaders were not chosen in a proper manner eg. through a Shura Council and given Bay'aa (Oath) by the ppl. Many leaders simply ruled through terror.

In any case Muslim's were great because we exchanged ideas with others eg. Greeks, Persians and Chinese among others. In Mughal India, the ruling Muslim nomenclatura learnet much from the Hindu's they ruled. The Mughal Court was also heavily influenced by Persian language and mannerisms.
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Old 16th December 2002, 07:39
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yes but they all fell hand in hand wid hadith...
to the nearest meanin the khilaaafath will be on the minhaj un nubuwwah for thirty years....
Hadhrath Abu Bakr Umar uthmann Ali n Hasan
(Radhiallahu ta'ala alyhim ajmaeen n then we shall fite for it....
when it was given up by imam hasan to Muawiya radiallahu an hu then there would be the rule ov the kings..
through inheritance....
then there will be a long period rule ov the tyrants and then it will return to the minhaaj un nubuwwah witht he majority ov the ulema ikraam claimin that this return would be wid Imam mahdi alayhis salaam.....
so these peeps basically fulfilled this prophecy ov uswathun hasana....Salallahu alai hi wa sallam...
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Old 16th December 2002, 11:37
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Me gunna be runnin the joint...
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Old 16th December 2002, 11:44
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u cudnt even run ur own posse..
ha ha even ur side kick asb disagreein wit u...
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